Lancashire Fusiliers of Interest

(or infamous)

Lancashire Fusiliers

Ian Greaves,
Lancashire Fusilier National Service Sergeant
and Manchester United Footballer"

Ian Highlighted on Church parade Moascar 1951

Ian Greaves when manager of Bolton

Ian Greaves Busby Babe turned successful manager
by Brian Glanville
The Guardian, Friday 9 January 2009

From 1953 to 1960, Ian Greaves, who has died aged 76, played for Manchester United. As a "Busby Babe" he won a championship medal (1955-56) and replaced Roger Byrne, killed in the Munich crash, at left-back in the 1958 FA Cup final. Yet Greaves became better known as the manager of five clubs, notably Bolton Wanderers (1974-80).

Greaves won his championship medal as a right-back, initially standing in for the injured Bill Foulkes. Greaves did so well that he kept out Foulkes out for the rest of that season.

Born in Oldham, Greaves was an effective rather than a stylish defender. He played 15 championship games for his medal, altogether making 67 first team appearances for United. A knee injury undermined his form at Old Trafford, and in 1960 he dropped down the leagues to Lincoln City, playing just 11 games during 1960-61. He also played 22 times for Oldham Athletic, before going into management with Huddersfield Town (1968-74).

The Yorkshire team's glory days were history, but in his second season he took them back up to the top division as champions, with star striker Frank Worthington scoring 22 goals. Huddersfield could hardly compete in the transfer market with more affluent clubs, but he kept them in the top division until 1972. In 1974, he succeeded Jimmy Armfield at Bolton Wanderers.

Bolton had beaten Manchester United in that 1958 Cup final. They had slipped out of the first division 10 years earlier but Greaves brought them back again, with Worthington reunited with Greaves, after a spell at Leicester City, contributing 11 goals. The uncompromising centre-back was Sam Allardyce, while another future manager, Peter Reid, was the tireless engine of the midfield. Bolton's 58 points put them one ahead of Southampton and two before Tottenham.

So successful was Greaves at Bolton that he was briefly a contender to succeed the volatile Tommy Docherty as manager of Manchester United. He kept Bolton in the top division until the end of the 1979-80 season, when they were relegated in last place.

He took charge of Oxford United, (1980-82), had a very short spell at Wolverhampton Wanderers (relegated in 1982) and finally moved to fourth division Mansfield Town (1983-89). He got them into the third division in 1986.

There was even a less glamorous return for him to Wembley, where Mansfield won the 1987 Freight Rover Trophy. Bill Dearden, his assistant then, would later manage Notts County. He called Greaves "a true gentleman, whose man management was second to none. He gave the people of Mansfield a great weekend when we won at Wembley." Greaves, recalled Allardyce, "was the man who gave me the chance to fulfil my boyhood dreams. You really wanted to play for him. He had a fantastic rapport with his players and long after he retired, he was always there for advice ... many of us have a lot to thank him for. He was a special man."

He is survived by his wife and daughter.

• Ian Denzil Greaves, footballer and manager, born 26 May 1932; died 2 January 2009

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Ian Greaves the well liked and respected football player and manager died on the 2nd January 2009.I have it on good authority that he played for the Lancashire Fusiliers during his National Service, sometime in the early 1950s. Can anyone fill in the details for us ?
See the link below.
Joe Eastwood.
Omnia Audax XXth
Click Here for the Ian Greaves The Independent Obituary
I am sorry to hear of the death of Ian Greaves. He was in "D" Coy. He was from Shaw nr Oldham. He played for the Battalion as a full back, and also played for the Battalion cricket team, a good mate.
I remember he was playing for Man Utd after their air crash...I was watching the sports news on TV and was surprised to see Ian being interviewed....He had cleared the ball with a big boot and demolished a BBC Camera. I did write to him and he replied, but that was the end...I did follow his exploits with Huddersfield but then lost track when I emigrated....
Very sad... RIP Ian.....
Bill Duffy
The letter I received was from Fredrick Sida and he says they served together in Kenya 1951-1952
Steven Fitt
Hi Joe If I remember right he was our first national service Sgt
Eric Freeman.

Greavsy, played centre half for the Bn. He was a fair haired, tall, well-built lad.

I remember watching him playing on that pitch behind the Knook Camp NAAFI and admiring the way he could defensively head the ball across to the feet of which ever, full back.

I think he also played for the Bn hockey team along with Allan Stott, (left wing) Lt Col Bamford, (right wing) Gene, from the B&D (forward line) and me in goal.

Also, one day after I had returned from a PT course in Aldershot, Lammy Naylor (Deceased) and I were in the NAAFI when Greavsy, asked about the course because he wanted to go on it.

Jim Costello

I also remember Lammy Naylor, telling me about Greavsy, and United in about '55 or '56. I had been away for a while in Manaus.

Now I'll have to take a whole pack of Paracetamol to fix my bit of a brain.
Jim Costello

I did quite a few various duties with him, as did most of us. One in particular, was a train escort to Port Feud and back to Ismailia which took 4 or 5 days. We would sleep and eat in our wagon.We woke this particular morning and all was quiet. We had a look and found we,d been shunted into a siding. Luckily,there were some body there who gave us a ride back to barracks.Lucky break.
Cheers Bill Ray